As part of a studio visit, the artist Veronika Burger showed her video installation EVEN WHEN THE LIGHTS GO OUT, which deals with the biography of the Viennese lamp designer Elisabeth Kemeter. Kemeter learned her trade from her aunt and was to hand on her knowledge later to her daughter. For thirty years, she made lampshades for Viennese interior design firms and created designs for the 1987 James Bond film “The Living Daylights”. Katharina Brandl (RRRIOT Festival) discussed with Veronika Burger and Elisabeth Kemeter a cross-generational line of women who – then as now – are denied publicity.